tenet how did neil open the gate
The Protagonist and Ives enter the tunnel and get stuck in there. If the Protagonist is to recruit Neil, 5 years after the events of Tenet, then Neil would have been 10 years younger than him. Inverted Neil enters this scene at the end, where the gate is already open. So the only way for Neil and bad guy stay in the same place after the bad guy came in is to die. I wish I understood more than the 4 percent (at best)I do of this movie. There are also two audible clues here to earlier points in the movie. In the middle of the fight, Ives (who is trying to stand up after being shot) notices Neil go through the gate he just opened, closes it and runs backwards into the tunnel that JDW and Ives just came from. Washington beats up the henchman. Neil, who is now inverted, goes back to the events at the gate. During this operation, the Protagonist notices that Neil has a red string on his back and that he was therefore the masked man who saved him during the opera siege. You're figuring that Neil dies inverted, so his corpse just continues on into the past once he's inverted for the last time. Then gets shot in the face to save the Protagonist. So, I'll post this answer to my question: Neil must have been the one that opened the door because the other two character absolutely couldn't. It's still a paradox in that how can the gate be open before Neil travels back in time to pick the lock. So I played the scene backwards and it clicked. Tenet, and its mission, and has no problem getting inverted again to go and open the gate. If this post does not fit /r/MovieDetails, DOWNVOTE This comment! With time flowing in reverse from Neil’s perspective, he opens the gate for The Protagonist and Ives, and then waits patiently behind the gate. So from the Protagonist's forward moving POV, the bars disengage, Neil's corpse pops back up and the bullet is sucked out of his head, and he proceeds to "unpick" or "re-lock" the keypad, then runs off backwards down the corridor. It’s a rather tricky answer, but yes, Neil does die at the end of Tenet. And at 4:04 Protagonist sees Neils body at the gate. Unlike in theaters, you can now turn on subtitles and rewind the confusing bits to … In the bad guy POV, he just saw a dead body and locked the door. On November 6, 1983, a test subject with psychic powers called Eleven was instructed by Dr. Martin Brenner to make contact with the Monster. !<, sigh, someday i will get to see this movie on a big screen. (b) Neil, Timeline 2 Merges with The Protagonist’s Timeline: On seeing Neil’s backpack, The Protagonist realizes that Neil is the inverted soldier who opens the gate in the cave, who dies after being shot by the chief goon. The Protagonist, Neil, Kat, and Tenet troops travel back in time to that day, where Kat disguises herself as her past self to keep Sator alive long enough for Tenet to secure the algorithm. He partners with the mysterious Neil (Robert Pattinson) to stop the Russian oligarch in the present, Sator (Kenneth Branagh), who's working with an evil society from the future. I’ve actually thought about this a lot and what I’ve come to assume is this: Stalsk 12 is supposed to be an abandoned Soviet secret city, so logistically, it’s unlikely anyone’s been in that weird gate room in a long time. Teasle felt the Vietnam War completely overshadowed his own service and bravery, In the Prince of Egypt (1998) after God tells Moses to remove his sandals he remains barefoot for the rest of the film. "Opera" is in reference to the Kyiv Opera siege at the opening of the film. Neil probably goes back to open the lock of the gate and dies there (unless he does the opera stuff first). But Neil takes the bullet as an improvisation at that moment, a sacrifice that we've been prepared to know that Tenet agents are willing to make: Protag swallowed the poison pill to kill himself as his duty rather than talk at the beginning of the movie. Time is running out. The Protagonist realizes that he is actually the mastermind behind Tenet and is the one who orchestrated the entire events of … I don't think he planned this, but sort of knew it. SURE he could have tried to just hide in the room with the heavy to intervene with the element of surprise but that probably would have been difficult if the heavy had seen an inverted man hiding and waiting in the bomb room lol. Yeah that makes sense but why does he do it? The question of whether his death can be annulled opens . Neil is actually re-locking the gate. Is ives and the rest of the group part of tenent ? Neil is actually re-locking the gate. At 4:09 inverted time, Neil spots Sator's Guy set up the trip mine. One of the tertiary mysteries of Tenet is the question of who recruited Neil to the organisation. However, Neils efforts are in vain. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Neil's death in the movie Tenet surprised everyone and led to the question - is Neil's death permanent? This the clearest explanation i’ve read so far! Though dying isn't essential to his final mission. Now, at the end of the first ten minutes of the fight when they successfully save the world (Let's call this event STW - Save the World): Neil, Ives and the Protagonist gather around and this conversation happens: Ives: ...How did you get the lock down there? The goodbye between them is actually the Hypocenter of their friendship because while the journey now begins for the Protagonist, Neil's one is ending as he'll have to invert and go through time again where he'll end up the corpse near the access gate. P is sad. WARNING: The following contains spoilers for Tenet, in select theaters now.. Christopher Nolan's Tenet lives up to its action tag as the movie's Protagonist (John David Washington) goes all out to stop the apocalypse. Neil says he can't because he has to invert himself and go back into the battle so he gives JDW his piece of the algorithm. Neil holds the gate open and essentially watches JDW and Sator's heavy fight in reverse. PROTAGONIST I wanted to be on the first wave. He knows Neil's being there saves The Protagonist, not to unlock the gate. Neil had been there throughout, ensuring the continuation of the mission. Which means at around 5:51 normal time the trip mine was set in place. When JDW does so Neil will close then lock the gate and will die to an inverted bullet that was shot by Sator's heavy. And when he is inverted that last time is he walking around with a bullet in his head? The room shown behind him is the (still pretty awesome) Crystal Palace NORAD set from Wargames (1983) (insert). As revealed in the final moments of Tenet, that mystery man is in fact Neil (Robert Pattinson), the operative The Protagonist believes he hired in Mumbai, who had in fact been involved in the plot well before he seemed to be. Like did Neil die and the version of Neil that survived go back to the helicopter, inverted himself and became the Neil that died? It is possible that Neil closes the door accidentally when tried to save the protagonist. Also isn't it possible that Neil knew that Sator's man would close the door, thus making it impossible for the Protagonist to get in. P realises that Neil is the one with the coin dangling and that he inverted in order to open the gate in the cave and will die being shot by the chief goon. !<, >!So from the Protagonist’s forward moving POV, the bars disengage, Neil’s corpse pops back up and the bullet is sucked out of his head, and he proceeds to "unpick" or "re-lock" the keypad, then runs off backwards down the corridor. This also means Neil is now dead. It explains the two different POV perfectly. He picks the lock on the keypad so he can re-engage those bars. Have something to tell us about this article? Robert Pattinson's character is as confusing as the film itself. Neil hitches a lift with Ives. What if the Protagonist recruits Neil, say, 12 years after Stalsk-12? Which means it takes roughly 50 seconds to reach the hypocenter from the entrance. Still, it's not right to call this a loop. He would wait for JDW to go backwards into the gate. Sator's heavy shoots the gate as a warning shot but the bullet hits Ives, which causes Ives to fall to the ground in pain. If the bad guy saw alive inverted Neil, he would just shoot him dead and locked the door and the plan fail. But wouldn't there be two versions of the protagonist and Kat in that time? Without his sacrifice, the results of their efforts would be in vain. TENET: Neil's Timeline Explained + What Happens To The Character In The End. The Protagonist, Neil and special forces operatives from Tenet raid Stalask-12 to stop the algorithm's activation. Neil explains that he plans to revisit the Hypocenter using time inversion to make sure he can open the locked door, as he’s the team’s best lockpicker, which thus seals his fate. At the end of the day, I did enjoy Tenet, but this is a space for me to praise Neil and his impeccable suits, beautiful, blonde hair, adorable one-liners and his love for the Protagonist (stream MEETING NEIL on Apple Music by the incredible Academy Award winning composer Ludwig Göransson). Inverted Neil enters this scene at the end, where the gate is already open. Tenet is streaming now on HBO Max, as well as on Amazon, Apple TV and Google Play. – MovieMe Jan 3 at 11:52 Series of questions that intends to reveal something about the personality, Series of questions with right and wrong answers that intends to check knowledge, Voting to make decisions or determine opinions, Submit your own item and vote up for the best submission, Upvote or downvote to decide the best list item, Upload your own images to make custom memes, Tenet (2020) - Neil never unlocks the gate (spoilers in comments). It seems like Tenet … From INV Neil's perspective, he walks in on JWD and the heavy fighting. Tenet Ending Explained: The Final Scene: Neil’s bag with the ring Future-Ives, future-Neil and future-Protagonist split the algorithm threeway. The Protagonist approaches Ives. Tenet tracks the algorithm to Sator's hometown in Northern Siberia, where it is heavily guarded. They find that their path is blocked by a locked gate. When did the Protagonist recruit Neil? I don't think he's stuck in a time loop since from Neil's POV his last action was to take the bullet and die. This time he will see JDW and Sator's heavy in the middle of their fight, but it will be going in reverse. @mocas Which Ives says because he knows Neil needs a reason to be inverting himself to head back to the bunker. They go deeper and find the place where the doomsday device is monitored by Volkov who is behind a gate that is locked. In The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey (2012), Peter Jackson plays a dwarf running away from Smaug in the prologue (he’s the one at the forefront). and un-die just when Protag arrives so that he can let him in. He also realizes that he’s the same vigilante who saved him back in the Opera House, and is emotional because of Neil’s death. We the movie audience are objective outside observers watching things go backwards and forwards. Since at STW Ives & Protagonist were the only two people alive. Earlier in the year, Nolan told Entertainment Weekly, “We’re jumping off from the point of view of an espionage film, but we’re going to a number of different places.”. Hence, in normal time: 00:00 - 05:00 : The passageway is blocked. Yes, I now think it's simply tempting and distracting to think that Neil's dying is somehow crucial to the success of what he did. EXT. At the end of the movie Ives suggests that himself, JDW, and Neil split and hide pieces of the algorithm. Or are they not people that the protagonist has recruited ? Just before stepping in front of the bullet, he makes sure to lock the door so that all of this can take place in reverse, unlocking the door for JWD. Do not get on the chopper if you can’t stop thinking in linear terms. !<, >!You see those two vertical bars on the gate, one goes up and one goes down? He lets the fight reverse back to the start where he sees JWD reversing through the open, unlocked door. In inverted time the bullet will kill Neil and suck back into the heavy's gun. They find that their path is blocked by a locked gate. If inverted Neil locked(open) before the bad guy came up . He knows it will only work if the heavy has a sense of security behind the locked door and the heavy isn't gonna think twice about the dead body in there with him possibly saving the day so with that perfect element of surprise, he knows he has to die. Kat kills Sator on the boat. Thank you! And we know that Neil is a super-capable agent, so he must also be ready to kill himself at a moment's notice if it will be a net positive for a situation. Tenet delivers a big reveal towards the end about Robert Pattinson's Neil and it actually hid the reveal in plain sight early in the movie. Neil runs towards the gate passes Ives on the ground and opens the gate. But inverted Neil can’t shoot that guy because the protagonist killed that guy. Neil explains that it was actually a future version of the Protagonist who was the one who recruited him to the Tenet mission years ago. This is the only part tripping me up. A decent explanation of the movie and what is going on. Now it's important to remember, this is a Normal bullet traveling forward in time. The Protagonist and Tenet team leader Ives (Aaron Taylor-Johnson) have to infiltrate an underground tunnel to retrieve the Algorithm. The Protagonist and Tenet team leader Ives (Aaron Taylor-Johnson) have to infiltrate an underground tunnel to retrieve the Algorithm. So, after the movie ends Neil gets in one of Tenet’s turnstiles presumably and heads back to the hypocenter. That puts Neil at 24 years younger than the Protagonist, or, just about the age of a secondary school student. If this post fits /r/MovieDetails, UPVOTE this comment!! However, Christopher Nolan preserved cause and effect throughout the entire movie except for the scene where Neil opens the door (hence, the confusion of so many viewers … !<, >!It’s still a paradox in that how can the gate be open before Neil travels back in time to pick the lock. THE LOCK is open –. When he went down to hold the door, he saw that Sator's Guy would kill the protagonist. While it’s possible Neil did this, Robert Pattinson is a relatively young man at the age of 34 (33 when Tenet was filmed). Where if he was the one to close the door rather than Sator's man, from the Protagonist's perspective the door will open, when he shut it. Neil is actually re-locking the gate. The question of whether his death can be annulled opens . He gets on a helicopter with Ives and at some point, (maybe on the boat, or at the giant turnstile machine in the cave), Neil inverts himself once again. So there’s like infinite Neils? Tenet, Christopher Nolan’s convoluted eleventh film, features John David Washington (The Protagonist) and Robert Pattinson (Neil) as members of Tenet, an organization fighting a war with the future using time inversion technology. Neil runs towards the gate passes Ives on the ground and opens the gate. And the reason why Neil locked the door again after the Protagonists killed that guy is because they do not have enough time to exit the tunnel and make sure other Neil who driving the car can save them. At the time of the Kiev terrorist attack, Neil had already been hired and was sent as a splinter to The Protagonist's group in order to stop him from being shot without … The word "Tenet" is featured heavily, obviously. However that begs the question when does the bullet get there? Half of the forces in this final set piece are inverted, while half are not. He picks the lock on the keypad so he can re-engage those bars. Neil asks if he is the "only one who can get the door open on time," referring to the door of the Hypocenter. Wouldn't it have to have been lodged in his head and then reverse back into the gun? After a baby hippo lost his family in a flood, a 103 year-old tortoise become his best friend and cared for him, These two are best friends (a turtle and a cat). Near the beginning of Edge of Tomorrow (2014), Tom Cruise is shown on television talking about the upcoming Operation Downfall. Those are the (near) final words of the ever wry Neil in Tenet.Riffing on the last line of dialogue from another Warner Bros. film, Michael Curtiz’s Casablanca, it’s a wink and a nudge from Christopher Nolan toward classic Hollywood cinema. maybe. Tenet’s scientists have discovered mysterious objects, such as bullets, that can move backward through time. If Ives says the truth about the gate, Neil will have no reason to invert himself. Neil explains that he plans to revisit the Hypocenter using time inversion to make sure he can open the locked door, as he’s the team’s best lockpicker, which thus seals his fate. This feature contains Tenet spoilers.. At 5:00 the building outside the entrance collapses with the double fire, post which the protagonist and Ives enter the passageway. You want to be on the team who lifts the contents of that capsule? Sator performs a pincer during Tenet’s highway car chase sequence. IVES There is no first wave – Red team and Blue team operate simultaneously. Ives gets up, opens the already unlocked gate and overpowers Sator's heavy along with JDW. The use of time travel in Tenet explained; Midway through, inverted Neil prematurely goes back through the turnstile to help the “red” team. He's inverted, which allows the forward-moving Protagonist and Ives to kill Sator's guy and stop the device from going off. WARNING: The following contains spoilers for Tenet, now playing in theaters.. Christoper Nolan's Tenet doesn't just use the Protagonist (John David Washington) and Neil (Robert Pattinson) as its two lead agents in the time-inverted war against Sator (Kenneth Branagh). Just thought it was a cool detail that Neil is thinking in non-linear terms. When he's about to shoot them, Neil's corpse begins to move on the ground and springs back up the moment Sator's heavy fires his pistol. As Neil turns to leave, however, the Protagonist notices that familiar red tag on Neil’s rucksack, meaning that it was Neil who saved the Protagonist at the locked gate … What Is Tenet About? There is no doubt about it: Tenet is a very confusing film. The plot of Christopher Nolan’s Tenet has been one of 2020’s most intriguing mysteries. The ending of the Tenet movie left a lot of viewers wondering whether the ending is just a set up for future sequels of the film. 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